#43 Sark Life and the Legend that is Jimmy Martin

This is the first time I’ve interviewed someone who lives here on the Island of Sark. Jimmy Martin is an absolute star and it’s a delight to be able to share this beautiful soul with you. We talk about what life is like living here in a tiny community and all the different hats we have to wear. But we juggle all the things so that we can give something back to the island. We have each other’s backs.

People are lovely and it’s important that we remember this in a world where the narrative is forever trying to divide and conquer us. In a world that so often pushes division, it’s vital to remember just how lovely people can be. Community, collaboration, and looking out for one another—these are the keys to building a future where we can all grow and thrive. 

The music and artwork is by @moxmoxmoxiemox

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Transcript

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The. Welcome to The Nonsense in the Chaos. I'm your host Jolie Rose. I'm really excited about today's podcast. I'm interviewing the absolutely bloody lovely Jimmy Martin. He's a beautiful soul, and I've only known him. I mean, I don't, I wouldn't say I know him that well. Um, I feel like I know him a lot better after recording this podcast, but I have known him. Everyone knows him on the island. Um, he's a, a local SAR chap. He's not from Sark, as you will hear. But he's very much part of the community here. everyone knows him. Absolutely. Everyone knows Jimmy. And it's because he does so much. He gives so much. And that's something that is very prevalent here on sarc. And what I think is very key for community is about giving. There is an element of having to have boundaries because you can just give, give, give, and there will never be an end to the taking. You need to, you need to have an element of, Self-control or know what you are capable of. but it is just a joy to be part of such an amazing loving, even if we fall out and argue with each other, like a big, dysfunctional family. But there is this amazing family that we are all part of, and it's, it's really special and. It is what I think is the key for resilience for the future, for all of us. I think that community is key. I think there's something poetic, ironic, apt about humans being the problem, but also being the solution. It's a bit like the, the venom and anti-venom being doing a small data of the venom. There's something about humans causing all the problems that we've caused in the world, but. The thing that is the answer is community and looking after each other and taking care of each other, and caring about being stewards of the land and caring about our surroundings and making sure that we are all having a lovely life. You know, that I think's the key thing, and it's why I am here and it's why I was drawn to this beautiful island and to the people who live here and I love them. And Jimmy is a key character linchpin. Support giver within that mix. He's a beautiful person and I loved doing this podcast with him. I fell in love with him and yeah, I'm, I, listening back and editing it, I was just like, oh, he's such a beautiful person. And, and I knew he was already, but it was sort of from afar, whereas now I'm like, now. Yeah. I love that boy. He's a, he's a beautiful being and um, and I'm so privileged to share him with you and for you to get an insight into. The life and experience and reality of someone who lives here on sarc. And I'd like to interview more people from Sarrc because everyone's got an interesting story to tell as to how they ended up here and or are from here. And they've got interesting stories to tell as well. So I'm gonna be peppering, interviews with people from the island, as we go along. And, this is the first, which is really exciting. So without further ado, I'm going to introduce you to the awesome Jimmy Martin. welcome to the nonsense and the Chaos. I'm interviewing my friend today, James Martin, or Jimmy, as we all know him. And Jimbo or Jimmy is a bit of a local hero here on Sark. Everybody knows who he is. He used to do all our carting and. He works so hard with the medical and emergency services and is also now in our government in chief police and we are looking at the moment to create a radio station. And so we thought we'd have a little play and experiment with getting Jim on the podcast, but also it's the first time I've interviewed anyone from sarc, so I've been chatting away about. What SOC means to me and what I feel about it. But it'd be great to hear about how you came to be here and also where you're from originally.'cause you're Scottish, as people will hear. Thank you. So whereabouts, okay. Where are you from, first of all? Okay. Tell me about where you're from. I was born and raised in Little Village, in Scotland called Armidale which is in West Lo more or less in between Glasgow and Burgh. Um, small little farming village. well it was small anyway, the last time we went home, just last year there, it's um, it's kinda expanded. We're almost like in Glasgow and in Edinburgh at the same time. Oh, wow. You know, we're at 12 miles to 12 miles along the motorway and you're in Glasgow, and then 12 miles the opposite way. You're in Edinburgh. Wow. That's pretty much like the perfect spot. It's, you know, 12 miles the other way. You end up in ster, you know, so, so we're pretty central to everything. 12 miles, eh? Oh, that's cool. Um, yeah, it's a lovely little place, but you know, it's SAR County over 10 in one my heart. So it says Sar not Scotland anymore, eh? Yeah. And when did you move to Sark? How old were you? I don't know how old I was, but I, I remember getting here the year 2000. Um, you know, we can do some mading up and taking away to get our age, but Yeah. Yeah. So, so yeah. Ba basically young lad though. Yeah. Yeah. You've caught me off with that one. Um, so yeah, arrived year in the year 2000, so, you know, I've been here now 25 years. Wow. Um, and I wouldn't consider at all ever moving back to Scotland. You know, I, I think Sarka is now, my home is, and that's where I will probably end my days and time, you know? Yeah. It's, um, what brought you here in the first place? What was it that. It was a funny little thing. I went in a job center that was in between jobs. Done a wee bit in the army because it got medical, medically defective from there. Mm-hmm. Um, some ear injury, anything. So I needed a job and went in and it was a little, and the job center and there was like a vacancy for sart. I'd never heard the SAR before. I'd heard the Han Islands. But so, no. So I thought, I'm gonna apply for it. And it was funny, it'd be a barman stocks hotel, what you started there. Yeah. There's another one of them great lucky people that managed to make a career out stocks, you know, you know, everybody that gets employed in stocks, either Kenny stays or invol or involves any, something good here, eh. The stocks hotel for anyone who's not from the island is like a, one of our really fancy hotels, and it's been around for a long time and it brings the seasonal workers over. And so every year we have an influx of new people who come to the island. And every year there's always some people who fall in love with the place and don't leave. Which is always lovely. And so you were one of them. One of them, yeah. I have many, many good fond memories, these stocks, some that I, I couldn't tell you on the radio because it, it seems like that's the way with everyone who works there, there's always a really good score. Well, was like, whenever you, you, because I, I was in my thirties, can you think so? I was still young. And you know, it's like they, so the sar, can he grab you? And it's the people that grabbed me, you know? Mm-hmm. Um, I never lived by the sea before. We knew it was making friends and they had boats and like, come on, we'll get in the sea. Can anything for a day? Mm-hmm. Um, then there's all over island where. It was like the party scene in the evening. I was, it was very hard work to keep up with. It was, but I managed and now completely Kenny him clean off the party scene and Kenny, yeah. Enjoying life, doing slowly things that I like to do now, eh? Yeah, so, so what's nice about, so, because he does have both of those. Sides to it. Like people are often surprised that I've moved here from Brighton because obviously Brighton was a real party city. And then to move here, everyone's like, God, it must be really quiet. And I'm like, no, it's the death of me. This place is such a party place. Yeah. It also has the beauty and the calmness and the there's so much to do when you're not drinking. Like I, you know, I'm not drinking at. I'm just as busy as when I am, so this is it. And we're absolutely covered in beautiful scenery and play. You know, you Yeah. Fishing. You go walk, take your dog out. Endless, you know. Yeah, absolutely. It's why you're taking the field even. Yeah, exactly. You know, so I've done that many i's done. It, it's coming up with your own entertainment.'cause I think we've got so used to everything being done for us, like in normal, what I say normal in the uk. I don't think it does seem normal now. I live here, the UK doesn't seem normal. This feels more real in that you go fly a kite or you go for a walk or you Yeah, you do something. That's what we used to do before we had all the digital world that we now are used to. Yeah. Whereas like, yeah, I think if you're living in the UK, it's very easy for it to all be scrolling on your phone or downloading a video or you know, it is all jumping a car and off you go with every point, you know, McDonald's and chain, you know, just we things. But, uh, you know, it's. Uh, it is great. You end up learning how to bake cakes and cook your own Sunday lunches. Yes. Yeah. Entertain your friends by saying, come to my house and you know, would you a cook up kind of thing. Cook up Sunday, you most enjoyable. And I've burnt a few also. Yeah. It takes a bit practice. And you tell us about some of the careers that you've had.'cause you are, you are one of those people that turns their hand to everything. And that's kind of what you have to do on SARC because you have to be a bit of a Swiss Army knife in order to get by. You need to sort of do everything, don't you? You do everything. Yeah. And, and I've done quite a lot of different jobs. One, um, FF from the Army, you know, went in there just to become, you know, like a regular soldier. And Mike Creek got, uh, ended pretty quickly for us. So, uh, it was quite disappointing because I actually enjoyed that. Mm-hmm. Um, so after that we went, decided, well, it came into a situation by, uh, starting in start. So started off in the restaurant trade, you know, went bar. And then Kenny realized that I actually could be quite a good waiter also. Mm-hmm. But I would say we had the gift of Agar really. And, uh, I, Kenny got on quite well weight with Paul who obviously was the owner at the time. Mm-hmm. And his mother, uh, Muriel, who's an absolutely beautiful lady. She really was. Um, she got, yeah, she always liked me. She would always say, Jim. Do you have any? And I can iron them for you. She wouldn't anybody else's. She would also always iron my and. So you, you know, I started doing a bit of catering. Then after a while, couple of y yeah, about a year a after doing stocks, I stayed for the summer. Done the summer season, then decided I want to stay for the winter. Went and had a chat with Paul. He said, that's fine. So we'd done the, the winter season. Uh, which much quieter, but still enjoyable, you know, because he's being, he still learn a lot. But during that downtime, I had the pleasure in meeting and working alongside George Gill, uh, because George went that he, he used to, well, he go in there as a part-time job and spend X amount hours. Chatting to people other than working. But you know, we used to um, we used to play his game. We miss his arm. It's like, George, we go, how long do you reckon I could keep the old girl talking? Then Jim, blah, that 20 minutes Georgie. He said, well, you go first and see how you go. So I'd maybe get 10 minutes. Georgia now, afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just waiting, you know? And I was like, yeah, okay. Then you crafty old. Yeah. Played that well, eh. And through, through working in state, met so many different people. Yeah. Like Met, met the family, the, the Miguels, and that was the first interaction we had with them. So, and I did, I didn't know at the time that later on in life that these people would actually be who I was serving and helping and, you know, evolving, doing a business. But so it was, uh, it was very strange. Yeah. But after the catering kind thing, I decided, well, I didn't really like doing this split shifts anymore, so I thought I could become a builder. So I went, went and approached her and Jess Hester, and Jess, I think very reluctantly took me on, you know, but he took me on anyway, and us a job. Ended in tears as it normally does whenever it comes to that. Always the best, but you know, could, yeah. Jess, uh, was building his big house on the cliff. As everybody knows, you know, you can see it. Beautiful big oak house, everything there. Uh, and then one Saturday morning he says, Jim, I need, so I was there helping him, like putting some flooring down. You know, he is got on the floor, heating and everything in there, you know, being a big, being a big house that it is going to be. And he says, he says, I've gotta go up to the shop. So can I leave you just to put these screws in through there? Absolutely no problem. Yes, you can do what you let, I've got this kind thing and off we went. And whenever he came back, well that was the ended up I thought, where the screws were supposed to go, where was supposed to go and Yeah, a lot. Oh no. Yeah. So this under floor heating, he had spent hours getting people doing and everything along come Jim, and that was. So, uh, yeah I, can you bollock me. He kept me on, I don't know how or why he must have really have seen something or he felt sorry for at me. And the same time, I don't know if you remember. Yeah. Um, Luke was, he was doing some roof work for this house, you know? Mm-hmm. And there was guys over, near over field shooting, you know, day in the old, um, pheasant shoot. Mm-hmm. The pheasant are over and the mixer. That Luke was filling up to make his stuff for the roof. So he, he comes running and in the middle of Jess Bullick and me, and he is like, Jess, they're shooting me out there. So he had to go running it and sort them. And I fight. That's what saved my job. Oh wow. Came back. He says, right pack up or gonna the pub, I'll forget it. Yeah you know, it's, um, wasn't the best builder, but I did enjoy it and I did try and make a career. It did let us loose way hammers and chisels because I said I'd like to become a carpenter. I, I'm one of people that I can do that. Yeah. You know, somebody says, oh, we need like a dj. I'd be, yeah, I can do that. Yeah, I'll make that. And then, the chaos later, but I've got now, but we're getting yeah so it's. Various different jobs, but, um, af after the, the building work, anything, uh, I, I realized, well, I'm not cut out to be a builder either. And I was fortunate enough to meet, um, uh, a partner Nicola at the time. Sadly, she's, uh, she's gone now. But, um, Nicola had, I had suggested at the time Ross Henry's carting business. Mm-hmm. Which is, you know, carting is like delivering all of stuff that comes off the cargo, collecting people's suitcases. Nicola suggested, well, why don't you like, I'll help and Kenny set up up a business doing the car, and yeah, done that. And another one, NBI can do that Joby, but I've done years. I really did enjoy it. Uh, sadly my health, but the better is at the end because it's, it's, it's you. You gotta be quite fit and it's a young man's game, especially working named steps, you know? Mm-hmm. Um, so yeah, just to explain to the listeners, so because we don't have cars on the island, we have Carters who are people with tractors that are able to pick up everyone's suitcases and bags from. The harbor, which if the boat is coming in when the tide's low, that's actually quite a lot of steps to carry all the bags up. And then you put them on the tractor and the trailers and then they get delivered to your hotel, which just freaks everyone out.'cause it's the only place in the world where you are asked to leave your luggage with strangers and trust them to just turn up at your house. And yeah, I mean, all of us. We couldn't live without the carers. Like, every time I go on holiday, I forget that I need to book to get my suitcase collected. And I get closer the next day and I'm like, oh my God, I, I can't put this on my bike. So yeah, the carers like basically keep the whole island going. But it is definitely a heavy work, isn't it? It's heavy work. And you know, you're out in all sorts of weather, come rain or shiny. People are coming and they want their bags and everything. But there was also some fun times where quite a lot of fun times where, you know, 1, 1, 1 incident that would never forget we had somebody there, there was people living here for the week, I think it was. Oh no, this was, it was a builder. He'd been working. He was working here and his contract came to Nnn. So he says, right, Jim, can you collect our bags and take them down and, and put them on the boat as used do, absolutely no problem. So we'd done our thing, just a job, and seven o'clock at night came up. I got this totally random phone call. Alright, Jim? I said, yeah. Said well. Can you explain something to me? I was like, what? I says, how come I can see my bags floating at the harbor wall? They ey. And I was like, I said, what? He said, I'm on the condor. He says, and I'm heading off to England, and as we are coming out, I can see my suitcase. He's flattened. Going up and against the, splashing up against the wall. Basically, whenever they got sent over. Nobody picked him up for his steps at the start shipping end in Sey. So when the tide came up, his bags away and you like, you couldn't, you make that story up, you know, you could not do it. I can see my bags, mate. I'm on the way to England and they're floating past me. You know, it's, um, yeah. That is one, one of the memorable ones, eh? Um, yeah. But we've done for the festivals, um, whenever we had the folk festivals come in, so we we're pretty intense. And you've got, it's quite a, a responsibility. Yeah. Well, he certainly, can you walk me up away a bit from being that immature little gym, partly running and playing hard, you know, like, couldn't you do it after a while? Can you buckle down? Could the responsibility was more than what it, what was needed, eh? Well that's what's interesting, isn't it?'cause I feel like sarc, the main thing that I feel about Sarrc is that the community is all encompassing and not like anything I've ever experienced anywhere else before. And I've got a real, um. I hold a torch for community because I think it's the thing that is the most resilient in the future with all the madness that's going on in the world. Yeah. I. Protect anyone in what, in whatever is gonna come. And we have no idea what's gonna come. But there are many, many threats on the many threats upon us at the moment. Yeah. And I just think community is so key. And I feel like we have the richest community I've ever known of here, and I'm sure that they're on other small islands as well, but it's just so contained and it's just the right number for us to fully. Not know everybody.'cause we definitely don't know everybody, but enough for us to know most people and for us to be able to look after each other and take care of each other. It feels like it's sort of just the right amount of people. Yeah. Yeah. And we have so many incredible, you know, everyone's doing something like you are involved in the, um, medical side of things. Do you wanna talk a bit about that Um, well, so to begin with, I start you, you know, um, this was probably after being two, three years on the island. I thought, well, I've got it. You know, I want do something. And I always fought because I seen that they, they were advertising for a fire service at the time. I always thought that's a kind thing I could do. Mm-hmm. A great, there's too many stories in that one, but yeah. So I kind thought, right, I'm gonna go and apply for it and look, I buy luck because it's quite a tight process to get into the fire service. Mm-hmm. But, uh, they, they managed and they say, right. Okay then Jim, you've, Kenny, got the vacancy. Uh, and this is me coming up to my 20 year service, um, in November. So I've got another three months and then I'll get a nice little medal and I'll be hanging my boots up. Then I. You let the youngsters in and go, but it was something I felt I've give the community something. Everybody else seems to be working so hard and doing, you know, in, in sar you, you'll notice yourself that you don't wear just one hat. You have to wear about five different hats during the course of the day. You know? Yeah. It's, um, but we all have different jobs and, and you go through one the other and you change from being near there, eh? The CFR got born. Now that's community first responders. For the listeners and the, it was a, I would say it was a brain I mandate catch the who you stay live and work here. Mm-hmm. They fought our first responder role could actually help start so well. Mm-hmm. So it is, there was about seven years at the beginning. We're now in our fifth year. We're actually, we're celebrating almost in September, November time. Okay. Uh, and that's, the responder's been going for five years. And it means that we, we get a call out, we go and first respond. We're up to level, fre free. We are training at the moment, so we, we are getting trained pretty well. Going to come over, um, mano from St. John's. We do various other courses. Holly, our practicing, uh, nurse here. Yeah. And she, she does her, her training nights for us. Which is once a month, and she absolutely fantastic. The wheel Asie deserves a medal herself just for what she does. She really does. She puts her heart and eat everything, eh? Yeah. She, yeah. Uh, and, and we, we all appreciate her, you know, because she's doing this on her own time. But we've all got this, like, we all care for the community and we, and we can give our best every time, you know. And the least we can do for her is because she's given us that is we go and we data training and we take it all on board and, and try and better ourselves, eh? Yeah. Uh, and lighten the load for the doctor here. So it's, yeah, it is. Got two or three different ways about it. Yeah. People have got their different views in it because we're not doctors. We're just like you. People say, oh, you, you're a glorified first aid. It's not like that though. You know? You're not really because you preserve life. We can all end uping up glue. But we, there, there is a more can serious site to it. Yeah. Where you, you know what, if you can preserve somebody's life and we act, we actually had a, we a wee girl that started with Young Amy. She, uh, Amy Perry, that is, um, she started with a couple years ago, two years now. Yeah. She was very, very, very, whiney old shirt. She didn't need too much confidence. At the beginning, like everybody, you know your confidence where you hold back, but there is an incident and I, I think I can say this on, on, on the radio there is a lady down, little sar and she needed CPR. And just by the Helly Lights, whatever young Amy was passing and she jumped straight into what she was doing. It just all, all the fear, oh, I can't do that. Or maybe that. And she saved that, that that lady's life. Yeah. You know, and she is, and, and Gonzi recognized that, and they gave her an award, which was even better. Yeah. You know, one for the girls. Yeah. It's incredible. It feels like you're so pushed to in directions you'd never have dreamed of. Oh. You wouldn't, I mean, you just wouldn't expect that you are.'cause I totally think of you guys as as ambulance service. You are there quicker than a UK ambulance. Yeah, well, yeah. Easy. And you know, and I, I, we don't hear the, we don't hear the traffic, uh, we don't hear bustling people and, and all sorts of things. Okay. We jump in our bikes or we can get there by tractor. Uh, and then we work alongside St. John's in Guernsey. You know, they, they, they set, they help us with the flag, Christine, which is an ambulance book that they send over to take patients back and forth, anything, you know, and in the downtime, normally about an hour. And you'll be in hospital in Guernsey. Yeah, from, from that phone call, you can't even see a doctor in the UK for eight hours. So, so we're, we're pretty good. We're pretty good. Yeah. It's amazing. We're spoiled. We're spoiled. That's, uh, that's the only downside. Yeah. It's amazing work. And I, I, and yeah, like. The first time I worked with you was through you supporting with the Beltane Festival and doing the marquees and it just, all of us put on so many different hats and then we're in the government together now as well. How are you finding that? You won't talk about it too much'cause we probably can't talk about it, but did the government Yes, I, I'll put my hands up. I was always wondering people that would be. Either in the pub standing or out in the street chatting and said, oh, I didn't bloody politic. They doing nothing for her. Mm-hmm. They, you know, it's like they're all lazy up in the office. I'm forced to put my hands up and take over every word that bike because I they work so hard. Julie, it is absolutely, and it's a fight this task so many times, a lot of the times. But they work so hard to try. Better the island for everybody, not just themselves. Yeah. It's crazy, crazy the amount of work that goes into mm-hmm. The emails. Yes. There's a lot of good email warriors and very quick in there and it's fine. Let carry on if they can answer it. That's me answering that. I can think about something else then, you know, but it. It's very, it is interesting. It is certainly not what I thought. She please was, yeah, it's a bit, it was a culture shock for me, let's put it that way. Yeah. You know, I thought, man, this is it. You just go in and you just talk. No, no, no, no, no. You gotta learn this. You gotta learn that laws legislation. And I like, yeah, okay, here we go. And that was me in my big mouth. I can do that. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I've done a couple of little things that I was like, oh, I done that. Yeah. So yeah. I'm quite, I'm quite pleased. Yeah. I'm quite pleased. It's been the most, like, I feel like I've done a massive course. Like I've, I feel like I've been stretched way further than I've been stretched since going to university or something like that. Just because the amount that you have to get your head round. Yeah. And then this is real people's lives, like we are having huge impacts You see everybody, even if you're at war with this person, you're like on old keyboard, you still gotta be, hello. How you doing? You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's, that's where the community comes in. Yeah. And doesn't matter who you fall that with, you always can you. Yeah. And we, we always respect, at the end of the day, you'll say hello to someday. You never, you wouldn't even thing with him, you know? Yeah. Together, and eat together and outside whenever it's done. There's one thing we've never had in SAT for wee. Really? There's been a murder. No murder. I'd love to join the theater group just to get that one line and there's been a murder. Right. That's brilliant. I love it. I speak to Gavin about that. Yeah. And sar, I would recommend it to any youngsters that, that really would like to come and see what SARTs about. And I would bet that 99.9 would also come back and end up trying to live here, eh? Yeah. But it's a fantastic little place. Yeah. You either love it or you don't. If you don't need pretty quick if. I love it. In the carting, when I was cutting, I did see the quickest turnaround Yeah. They off the boat, you walked to the top, they looked over the wall and off they went back with other suitcases. They came, they came for a job at one of the hotels, eh, nah, I'm not liking this. And off they went again. Well, that's hilarious. Yeah. Okay, just going back quickly to, um, back to when I arrived and saw another irony thing was like, I came off that on, on the ceiling across, and I remember it so clearly. And I go, oh, this is really beautiful coming in, you know, from the knee down and you tie up. Yeah. And boy got me suitcases and I thought, okay, well this is it. I've gotta go his stocks. I didn't even know there was a, a tractor taking him up the hill and taking him to the hotel for you. So I said, slog all the way up the hill where these two massive, a big suitcases, my Orly belongings. And then to realize 13 years later that I'd actually be doing that myself. But I do the most beautiful thing I say, I. I knew that straight away within coming through that tunnel. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's stunning. As soon as I was Lighthouse, I remember thinking how it looked like Game of Thrones, and I was just like, there'd be dragons here. Look at this place. Yeah. Oh, well you talk about Games Thrones. Well. Well, you know what I am gonna do, talking about Game of Thrones, is I'm gonna pull three rooms and the rooms are for us to just talk about a thing that the is, is letting fate just choose what we're talking about. And I normally do tarot cards, but because you have room tattoos, I thought we should do that. I know. So have you ever had a rain pool for you before? No. I normally just pull my own ones and say, oh, that sounds good today. That'll do it. So you, do you pull your own rings? I do. Yeah. Yeah. How cool. I said, got a little mat in that and I lick. Right. Okay. So I pull that one and that's how I go out, out the door. This is me today, and I can go by the room. Oh, that's wonderful. I do. Yeah, I do that. That's a really cool thing. Yeah. It, it's funny you see that there, there's a few people like, I, I didn't realize that Kara was into, uh, yeah. And them, so there, there's, there's a few hidden people here that are actually Yeah. To believe in the old ways. Yes. In the old ways. Exactly. Ways. Yeah. What does your tattoo say? If you don't mind me asking, you don't have to tell me, but what's your tattoo? One of them. For everyone that, uh, wonders is not lost. Uhhuh, that's that one there can find. Yeah. These were just all different ruin now. They're, they're not your standard ruins. They're all different ruins. IK went back to as, as far as I could find, as much we depict being Scottish. And I try to pull bits in, whatever. So whenever I got that done, it wasn't supposed to go all over like that, but I don't know how it ended up. And we just ended up putting them all across like that. We were, there were supposed to be a bit more uniform, but, but it, I probably too much talking actually. And then, but, but it was too late, so they are totally random. So you could just close your eyes. That's how I am today. Jim, look at, oh, you're fast. I love that you do a reading with your own arm. I love it. Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna put my hand in. I'm gonna, uh, oh, a reading. And it's not a reading, it's just something for us to chat. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Ooh, it's actually one of my favorite readings. So Raz or the Thorn. On. Yeah. Yeah. What does that mean to you? Because I have meanings for these rings, but what does it mean to you? That one, to me, I wouldn't know too much. Okay. Yeah. So it means the, it means like a, a shamanic journey. And what I always think of it a bit like the thorn on a rose, so you're gonna get a rose, so it's worth it. It's, it's basically almost the best prize you can get. Yeah, but it's not gonna be easy. And it's ths ruin the god of thunder. So you're expecting it. Storms and hardship, but it's well worth it.'cause you're gonna get right at the end of it. When you said that, when you, my actual thoughts are well foreign, it's going to be forney, which means there's going to be something, it's going to be either prickly or dangerous. It could be a dangerous road you're going down that is. What's been the kind of hardest journey you've had, but was the most rewarding? Hardest journey, but most rewarding. That's an easy one. Na, being a father. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was hard. It, it was hard actually, because. I've never, never been one, but I, I, I quite honestly was quite, Ima mature, you know, I say always wondering lads in the pub and that kinda thing. And I, it made me have taken look at myself more and make choices actually. Yeah. You know, what I needed to do to, to to, to actually be that good father that I know I am, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was tough journey. But it was a lovable journey. So I don't know if, if a beautiful boy to show for it and Yeah. Well, thank you. Yeah. And, and you, you know, it's like we had our ups and downs Kenny thing. Yeah. Uh, Flynn and I, but we don't think Flynn and I's ever had a, had had an argument, you know, that. Oh. Uh, and that to me is just like, I've always said that my, my parents, uh, my parents they were fine. They were great parents, you know, hardworking. They've done everything for us. They made it. And I always said, I wouldn't, I wouldn't need treat my son like I. Their way because obviously they came Victorian parents, you know? Yeah. And, and think, right, well I'm gonna try something different here. You know? Fingers crossed, no dis. Amazing job. Everyone loves Flin. Well done. Yeah. Yeah, it is good. I'm glad. Well, I'm pleased to hear that. Yeah, he's a good boy. If you enjoy this podcast, then please consider supporting me on Patreon, which is patreon.com/daily. Rose. I love doing this podcast. 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Like look, looking like looking into something or, yeah, looking into the darkness. I always think of it a bit like, Indiana Jones going down a tunnel. Yeah. I do play with the, well, I don't play with. Yeah. There is no godkin thing, you know? And, uh, and the afterlife. Absolutely. There's, I kind of stop reading or watching programs and, and things like that. You know, Romans old history. Yeah. But, but that's looking backwards, the past, eh? So, so looking into the dark torches, always asking what is next for us? Where does our journey go after humans? You know, that's how I. Yeah. And what does he believe in? Are you, uh, you believe in days? What does that mean to you? I, I just believe that where, this is, this is hell, we're in hell at the moment. Uh, you know, and we've got some, something next to that take to come to, you know, we're only vessels carrying under our souls at the moment. Yeah. And, uh, I, I do believe that there is an afterlife that's for sure. Yeah. Um, it might not be the afterlife that we think there is or whatever, but I do believe that we go somewhere and, and we do evolve re reincarnate something along the line. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, I love it. I really enjoy it. Thinking about all that stuff and talking about it. It's one of my favorite. Yeah. And I've got no idea, but I'm, I could talk about it all day long. I don't talk to many people about the things that I think about because I'm, skating case locked me up, you know, we've got you up anyway for many other things. Well, yeah, there's that Maddy coming along again, but, you know, but. Horrible for. It's just like, yeah, I, I'm keen for it. Yeah. Since once I was told that, well, I had the quadruple bypass at a very young age of 40. Um, you know, the, the doctors say that I died twice on the table. Oh, wow. Um, so that kinda changed my perspective to a few things than two years ago when I had the second heart attack, which damaged the first heart attack. A totally different perspective again. Wow. There was this one, and I'll never forget this one particular little nurse, she said, that's it, son. We can't do anything else. And that thought that rings in my head every day. You know, it's like, and I'm like, man, so I made peace with myself. That's all I could do, you know? So I'm like, come on. And I challenge you now my friend. I'm ready. There's nothing we can do it. So yeah, just take it on it on the chin, how it comes. Yeah. Beautiful. Well, that's, that's literally the goal. That's my goal is to find peace. So, yeah. And that, and that is it, you know, it's, um, I, and I tell everybody that I'm happy and, you know, especially some. I don't know how he puts up this, because i's like, right, mate, we've got our will here, right here. So I said, you need to come run tomorrow and we're gonna put another page in this. Will, you know? And he's like, but he's like, yeah dad, we need to do this Now. He's, he's caught it on, you know, he is like, yeah, good. That's it. He's, can he talk to me? Say, look, it's not a bad thing when somebody passes. Yeah. You'll hurt you'll be tearful for a few days. Wait, but, enjoy the good times. Memory should. Yeah. And people are always with you as well. Like I've, I've lost a really strangely large number of people since 2020. So when I moved here, I've lost 18 people since I moved here. Wow. Which is a bit, that's a lot. Yeah. A bit crazy. And, uh, I even, it was my friend's funeral on Friday, so it's like, God Yeah. In the moment. And I, they are with me all the time. Like I've lost three best friends since I lived here. And, I see them all the time. They're in the birds, they're in, they're everywhere. I, yeah. Yeah. They turn up and make me laugh all the time because it's really funny when they've turned up and it's like they're playing with me, and it, yeah. My memory, my thoughts, my own head doing it. But they're so fun that I let them, I allow it to be as real as if they were alive, you know? And, and yeah, no, no, but I've, I stood, wi winter days are, are, are the best for me. You know, you can, you can be doing something and then you can see the trees moving. Then the next thing you can see. Oh, there you go. And you, you can see, well, I've seen the odds here before, you know? Yeah. I watched that much. But that, that, that's, it gets into your imagination. Yeah. And then you start seeing what is real. But yeah. Is it dogs? Dogs can tell that there is a spirit there, can't they? Absolutely. You know, so we, we don't know. We don't, and there's more room for that in Sark, I think.'cause you're not surrounded by concrete and tarmac. It's easier for Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Have that moment in the beautiful sunshine in a sunset or, yeah. I mean, the amount of times I've cried at sunsets and. It felt like someone's with, we used to, um, when we first got go, don't you, the lighthouse, you know, bit, you up one bit. You, you, you'd go to the mermaid, you hear you fun in the mermaid at night. Then you'd go and sit and talk of the, the lighthouse roof and that was it. You wake up then you didn't even fall asleep actually. And you just watch sunburn and every, and it is beautiful. You can't be, there's nothing at all that can replace that, that as a memory, you know. Absolutely. Yeah. We're so lucky we get to watch the sunset and then the moon rise, like, oh yeah. Basically walking a few meters. That's incredible. Yeah. Well, yeah. This is it. Eh, you know, it's, um, yeah. Well, I think maybe me and you should get together after. Yeah, I'm up. That's a date. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see what happens at the next belt. Okay. And the last room is the sun. We were just talking about it. The sunset. Wow. So this is, this is like full brightness and illumination. So I guess it's a bit like what we're talking about of what is it that gives you full hope and makes you feel like it's all worth it? The most is, is seen results. You know, it's no same results. That's your own words. Getting the, the knowing that either you've just saved somebody's life mm-hmm. Or you've done something that, that has gave that person a better chance in life. Yeah. It's, um, I like, um, like we, we, we do, Dom and I dom's my friend. Mm-hmm. And we, we kind got together many years ago and said, been. Uh, and start for a while after John's accident, and we started this and we thought, oh, this is really good. A lot of people came for it, and we thought, well, we could raise some money for different, various charities for around the island. Mm-hmm. And, and we have through the years. Uh, one year we got some, uh, what is it? Bulletproof Vest. Now this was a random. One, um, for the Ukrainian peoples that were going in and outta towns to bring the people over. Oh, wow. Okay. We, we, we had, had heard that they needed help, right. But we had this money sat there and we thought, right, okay, well this is the cause that we're going to do this year with the money. Um. After that when we, we've bought an electric wheelchair, which, um, allows the older, some of the older islanders to, to get out with their, their carer. And so they, they're not stuck at home. And these little things are like, it gives you so much happiness, knowing Yeah, look at that. There we go. There's another one. Well done, done it. You know, no need. You can make other people happy that's my drive. Yeah, that's a i'd, uh, I'd give my right ear to before I'd, I'd take one for myself, eh? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Wow. Timba, you're lovely. You really are. It's, it's, I need self game anymore. It's like if I can meet people happy, even my dog. Yeah. I love dancing with my dog. Absolutely. We turn the music on and that's it. We passed time, eh, brilliant. Yeah, but I'm, I'm not an old sadr actually. I do have a pretty active life. We go fishing, camping with boys and, and doing different things. And at the moment my, uh, my new job is becoming a dj. That's why, and that's what this is all building towards as well. Yeah. Radio station going, I wanna listen to your radio. I could listen to you all day long. Ah, we could have fun. I, I was, uh, I was telling, uh, Bernard one, you, one of your clients, uh, today he burn's, had a stroke so I could, doing three or free days a week to Just give a bit of you. Keep on going. Whenever we get the, uh, radio station, I'm going, you, you and like hell, you're, I, I'm telling you, I'm gonna come in and we'll just talk normal. So I've, I've got it linked up my ideas, you know? Yeah. Oh, it'll be brilliant. I really, I, I think it's gonna work and I think it's gonna be awesome and I'd love, I can't wait to hear it. People say, Hey Jim, you talk enough dribble in the day. So yeah, you're a man for a job. Yeah. You might as well do it as a job. Yeah. You know, we just have to pass X amount of hours. It doesn't matter what we talk about. Yeah, exactly. It'll be awesome. the last thing that we do is we ask for a chaos crusade, and that is something that you would recommend for people to do to just break the like habits of everyday life and to. Just make you sort of appreciate where you are and what you're doing for a second. You know, wake up from the dream for a moment. Take the danger, take, take the road and, and show people. Yeah. Do you know, I think I can answer that one a lot. I've not being an old duck here, right? Mm-hmm. But the l kids out there, um, that they really understand like the drugs and alcohol. I think would be the one. Mm-hmm. Um, but we all take alcohol and not realizing how much data danger we're actually given mm-hmm. Uh, to ourselves and some, some of the drugs that people tamper away, especially the, all these synthetics, it's um, to, to give something a shock culture is to take them, run to even an old people's home with people where there are cases. That's what you could end up being, or this is what, why you've ended up with these difficulties. Mm-hmm. And because it, it is, it's, they, they are diseases, you know, they, they're, they are as easy and I think need to shock culture on somebody to take them around and say, well, look, this is your options here, you know? But I don't know if that's where we're going with that one or not, but Yeah. No, no, no, that's good. I mean, it's, it's good. It's'cause I think we, um, especially on soc alcohol has been one of the things that I was quite, well, I, I messaged all, I dunno if you know that I know Cara from doing a tutor reenactment. We dress as tutors and, and live as tutors and the public paid to come and see what living history is like. So that's how I know Cara and moved here is that Cara was here having met Ash. Being a carriage driver and Right. Working for Michelle. And as soon as she got here she rang me up and said, it's just like that place where we work. It's just like the Tudor place and Yeah, people come over and visit. So I came over and this Tudor place, you'd love it. You would. Absolutely. It is. So yeah, like we're all in costume and we're sitting around campfires and singing songs and pretending to be tutors with guns and swords and all this sort of stuff. Yeah, very cool. Um, but we drink very heavily and it's really good fun. We're only there for like four weeks in a year, drinking as heavily as we do. And I moved here and I got in touch with all my friends there on, on WhatsApp. I was like, everyone here drinks like we do, but all the time and forever. It's a level of. Uh, drinking here. That's way above what we do in the uk. And, and it's it does worry me. You know, I've been clear se seven years today actually, that I've, I know congratulations, um, like clean from drinking alcohol, but it was that I was a raging, need a beer every time. I just enjoyed, enjoyed the weekend, you know. Yeah, but it was like, enjoyed the weekend, which went and, and Wendy Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So yeah. Life was a party. Yeah. Yeah. You know, but I, and yeah, I probably made a fool of myself more than a lot of people in the side. However, I can seen the, the air in my ways and Yeah. I, and I hate watching the youngsters. Can you go and doing the roady things that I've done myself. And realizing it's not all about going out and getting smashed all the time or getting as drunk as you can. I know there is a, a level and I feel sorry that people, okay, you can go, you can enjoy yourself, but it can you, yeah. As you said earlier, can you, let's go and get annihilated it. What worries us, you know? Yeah, definitely. And I think it has. I think it's got better. I think it has got a bit better. In the time that I've lived here I feel like it's a bit less, uh, intense. I dunno, the, the people do shots a bit less than they did when I first moved here. Yeah. Yeah. I, I feel. I see a European side actually kin culture coming into sar. You know, I, I don't go to the pubs or that bit, you know, I, I enjoy going for a restaurant, eating, and yes, the, there, there is the, the, the different, where the Europeans are a bit more relaxed bit. Out to get as drunk and wobbly as they can. You know where Yeah. And, and I'm seen that some of the youngsters actually are taking that step back and calming down a little bit. Yeah. But, but it is still a worrying for the rest of. Yeah. No, I agree. I fully agree with that. Yeah. It's, um, I, as, as for the drug side of their life, well, I just hope that they can keep this cleared up path as long as they can. Yeah. Lost a lot of good friends through, through drugs. I lost my brother through drugs and there's a lot of, a lot of things that, you know, I just feel that if people were, had, had the support, it could be a different story for a Lauren, but it will ruin their lives, you know? Sorry to be in a really down one in that, but that's alright. It's, it's that kind thing where the chaos has to come to a halt. Yeah. And, and you realize that, no, we need to stop this. Or if you've got a friend, for instance, that I know has gone Right. Done it and you can see the brick wall in front of him. Yeah. You, you need to really pull yourself and, and do everything you can saved. And that that's what he must. I totally agree with that. And I do, I mean, personally, I think alcohol's the worst out of all of them. The ones that I've, I have lost people to alcohol and the closest we've ever got to losing other people has been through alcohol. For me personally, I have lost someone from drugs as well. But yeah, I'm always into, um, getting more from less. That's part of my ethos. Yeah. Yeah. More from less. Yeah. But like that, yeah. I dunno why that's going on, but I'm enjoying it. Yeah. No, well that's the thing. I think it's a balance, isn't it? And I think if you've got peace with yourself, then you'll have to spend time on your own. And it, it, it's, it's more big crowds. They used to be in big crowds all the time. You know, I'd be, be, yeah, I'd be, there's a lads at the bar there. You did. You go and that and be night and whatever. Where now it's like, do you know what? Yeah, I'm just going read. I. Or I'm just going eat 12 o'clock in it. I'm just going turn my music on what I do. How kicked off. But yeah.'cause you can do these things, eh? No, totally. Yeah. Thank you so much, Jim. That was wonderful. That was good chatting with you. That was so good. You're a beautiful human being. Thank you. Well, thank you. It's, um, yeah, so we edit this late and take it on a really bad part. No, it's all staying in. Have to do this again. Eh. The bad parts will always be the bits that everyone enjoys the most. So this is it. This is it. Yeah. Anyway. Julie, listen. Thank you very much. Ready for work now because man, across the road. What a beautiful person he is. I can't believe how much I love that guy. He's gorgeous. I left it recording, then I left the that into the edit at the end there because that's him going off to work to go and look after someone. He was heading off to go and take care of someone. And yeah, I, I just really enjoyed that conversation and. The more we talked, the more I was like, wow, you are such a beautiful person and we are wall to wall beautiful people over here. There are so many people that are giving and looking after and taking care of people, and it's just. I love people's universes and I want to keep exploring and looking into different people's realities and the way they see the world.'cause there's always something, there's something medicinal in everyone and, and insight and uh, yeah. You're like, oh God, I never thought of things that way, or I haven't looked at things that way before. And, and also just. Just people are so lovely. People are lovely. And I just think that's a really important narrative in a world that keeps saying that people aren't, and it's so easy for us to buy into the paranoia and the division, which is completely calculated. You know, divide and conquer is as old as time. It is a well-known tactic. You divide people and you can then conquer them easier, and that is what the media does. The media is telling us that our enemies are immigrants or our enemies of people with brown skin or our enemies of the annoying poor family down the road, or our enemies is just our neighbor or our enemies is our. Partner, like literally, you are just being separated and separated and separated. And that is because it is easier to control you and fill you with fear and make you stay home and paralyzed. And when you start to actually connect with people and you spend time in community, that's when you go, oh my God, everyone's in the same boat as me. We are all the same. We all have fears and love and passion, and we are all caring and kind and. We are gonna look after each other, and if we start looking after each other, we start looking out for each other. And if we start looking out for each other, we are harder to conquer. And that is why divide and conquer is a very useful tactic. And so that is also why community is the answer. It is key. And the more we get to know each other and work together and learn to. Embrace and say yes, and fill our world with love and connection and community rather than fear and separation and individualism and self-absorption. It's just, come on guys. It's all about each other. It's all about each other. That's how we're gonna get through this future and make the world a better place and, and not heading to. The abyss that we are being described as being in front of us. You know, we don't have to live into that reality. We need to create our own. And my way of doing that, my belief in my creation of my reality that I want to live into is a beautiful community. Where we look after each other and take care of each other and deal with all the shadow and crunch and difficulties and clashes and conflict Conflict's not a bad thing. Nothing happens without drama. Like, you know, if you watch the East Enders and there was no conflict, you wouldn't watch it, would you? You need conflict for things to happen. You need conflict for things to move on, but it doesn't mean you have to hate each other over it, and it doesn't mean you have to like try and avoid it. You just have to embrace it and be like, yeah, that's the fuel, that's the combustion engine. That makes change. That makes things happen. Don't be afraid of change. And yeah, don't be afraid to open your heart up and love your love thy neighbor. Well, I love my Jimmy. I've gotta say that he's a beautiful person and I really, really hope that we're able to get a radio show off the ground because. I, I could listen to Jimmy all day, so gonna help him do that and support him on that journey and watch this space. I'll let you know if we, um, if we have a radio station, I will advertise it to you guys, so hopefully you'll be hearing a lot more from Jimmy. But thank you ever so much for being here. Huge love to all of you. And I shall see the enon.